. >> listen, does fox and cnn are they in the same building i don't think so. john: but fox and cnn can't banishes competition, competition is good, that is why we have the networks, have you a choice, of what channel you will watch or school you attend, comp tig makes it better -- competition makes it better, del grosso understands that about his own education. >> my mother paid for me to go to it, it kind of made me feel that i had better do pretty good in that school. or else. john: so it sounds like you argue for unionized public school. >> moment at arguing against them. john: most of independent schools are still catholic schools doing a great job, for less than half of money you spend. >> i 1 say that. john: 17,000 versus 5,000? >> john, tell them to have another bingo game, and gets it over with. john: catholic schools fire bad teachers, but government run schools cannot. because, teachers get tenure,. john: why have tenure? most professions don't. >> when you went to organized crime you were a made person, like a ceremony, but not getting tenure, that